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Offline katykicksass

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2017 Grammy Awards
« on: November 01, 2016, 01:15:30 PM »
Capitol Records sent Rise to the Grammys to be nominated in the following categories:

Best Music Video
Best Song Solo Performance
Song Of The Year
Record Of The Year
Best Song Written For Visual Media



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Offline Jadd.H

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Re: 2017 Grammy Awards
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2016, 06:10:17 PM »
YES  :o :o !

Maybe this time it could be it for Katy  :o

So excited  :frolickingghost: :firework:

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Re: 2017 Grammy Awards
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2016, 03:46:25 AM »
I hope this is a hoax.
A mediocre song, designed as an advertisement, already forgotten by most. If it's not a hoax than it's a bad joke.

Offline mitsguy2001

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Re: 2017 Grammy Awards
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2016, 01:44:44 AM »
I do have a question about the Grammy's in general.  Not looking for an argument, just asking a question.

Several posters assert that the popularity of a song is not a factor in deciding what songs win a Grammy.  That seems to make sense, since if popularity were a factor, then California Gurls, Teenage Dream, Firework, Roar, and Dark Horse would all have Grammys, and ET would have at least been nominated.

However, when I questioned why Katy did not even submit Unconditioally for a Grammy, despite it being the album's most critically acclaimed song, everybody said that the song was not popular enough.

My question is: which is it?  If popularity is not a factor, then why did Katy not even submit Unconditionally?  If popularity is a factor, then why did none of California Gurls, Teenage Dream, Firework, Roar, or Dark Horse win a Grammy, and why was ET not even nominated?

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Re: 2017 Grammy Awards
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2016, 06:09:48 PM »
Popularity - as for example extent of in radio play or other things  - I think has nothing to do with them. As far as I understand, it's like a bunch of critics who decide if a film is a good one or not - but not which is the most popular one.
Personally I believe these particular awards have become increasingly rigged by a clique, I regard them as good as worthless no matter what ppl say about their 'prestigious' value.

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Re: 2017 Grammy Awards
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2016, 03:43:23 AM »
Popularity - as for example extent of in radio play or other things  - I think has nothing to do with them. As far as I understand, it's like a bunch of critics who decide if a film is a good one or not - but not which is the most popular one.
Personally I believe these particular awards have become increasingly rigged by a clique, I regard them as good as worthless no matter what ppl say about their 'prestigious' value.

That all makes sense.  But then why did Katy not submit Unconditionally, even though it was the most critically acclaimed song from Prism?  Everybody here said that it was because it wasn't popular enough, which contradicts what you said above.

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Re: 2017 Grammy Awards
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2016, 08:54:45 AM »
People say a lot of things, popularity doesn't count there. I wasn't aware it was critically acclaimed, those things go unnoticed by me because I'm not interested in critics, deciding for myself what I prefer most or least. I'm not sure how the decisions for submitting are made but I'd say Katy doesn't do that on her own. At Capitol Records she's on the team, not just their product, but that means it's somehow the decision of a business meeting, not her isolated choice.

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Re: 2017 Grammy Awards
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2016, 05:52:05 PM »
I do have a question about the Grammy's in general.  Not looking for an argument, just asking a question.

Several posters assert that the popularity of a song is not a factor in deciding what songs win a Grammy.  That seems to make sense, since if popularity were a factor, then California Gurls, Teenage Dream, Firework, Roar, and Dark Horse would all have Grammys, and ET would have at least been nominated.

However, when I questioned why Katy did not even submit Unconditioally for a Grammy, despite it being the album's most critically acclaimed song, everybody said that the song was not popular enough.

My question is: which is it?  If popularity is not a factor, then why did Katy not even submit Unconditionally?  If popularity is a factor, then why did none of California Gurls, Teenage Dream, Firework, Roar, or Dark Horse win a Grammy, and why was ET not even nominated?

No offense but you've been beating a dead horse for literally years now

No one knows why Katy or Capitol didn't push the song to the Grammy's. They probably sent the songs that they personally thought had the best shot of actually winning. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Katy didn't even partake in which songs were sent because honestly she really doesn't care as much anymore.

Popularity does have some effect on what is in the Grammys as something has to bring the attention to them but it doesn't actually give them the award itself, just a better chance at getting nominated.

Like IronButterfly has said, the Grammys are progressively getting more rigged. The "new artist of the year" award is literally the fakest award I've ever seen... most artists have multiple albums out by the time they receive it and have been on the scene for a while.

The Grammys are horrible compared to what they used to be, Katy doesn't care about them so honestly you shouldn't either. Especially concerning one song for 2 years.

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Re: 2017 Grammy Awards
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2016, 11:24:46 PM »
So, to summarize:

Popularity is a major factor in which songs are nominated for a Grammy

Once a song is nominated, popularity is no longer a factor in whether or not it wins

Offline hellokatyperry

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Re: 2017 Grammy Awards
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2016, 11:38:50 PM »
I'm happy to see a song like Rise being sent to be nominated for the Grammy's. Personally I don't think song's popularity have any influence with the probabilities to win a category but definitely Rise deserves to win at least one category. Such a powerful and inspiring song :xx:
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