Author Topic: RISE  (Read 8271 times)

Offline CastlesCrumbling

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Re: RISE
« Reply #75 on: August 10, 2016, 06:34:36 PM »
I really like Rise. It is constantly stuck in my head. I agree it isn't as strong as her previous singles, but I still really like it.

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Re: RISE
« Reply #76 on: August 10, 2016, 11:37:10 PM »
I like what Capitol Records is doing to promote Rise though. Never have they tweeted about Katy like they're doing now plus that huge Rise flag they have.  :)
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Offline IronButterfly

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Re: RISE
« Reply #77 on: August 10, 2016, 11:38:37 PM »


You do realize this is essentially a PRISM/TD album filler reject right? She thought at the time it wasn't even good enough to be filler on those albums so I don't really see where you're coming from here. She obviously improved on it by finishing it but she definitely never intended on this song to be a full out single until she got the Olympic deal and stuff started to go on.

I'm not saying that it's not performing well I'm just saying it's probably not going to be that #1 song. And Steviep24 is exactly right. It caters to contemporary.
Well, ppl keep thinking it's something taken out of the album to come to use it for its current purpose instead, and that's not the case, so it's not the album filler they talk about. The idea of having a filler on an album of pop tunes is grotesque anyway, if you've got nothing worthwhile to put there, don't fucking do it. As long S an album needs 'fillers' it's not finished.


I really hate to say this but filler is a sad reality and it always has been. Even in past decades artists put out albums literally yearly and half or more of those songs were just whatever they could throw out with 3 or 4 great songs on the album. It's not as bad today as people take longer to craft albums now but unless you truly create an album as a piece of art typically most albums have some form of filler. Just something to finally finish up the album that you don't find on par with the rest of the album.

I really hate to say this but I think PRISM has a lot of filler... I'm not saying it's a bad album because I do like it but the entire album seems like a rush job to me because Katy didn't get the time to actually craft it. She wrote 28 songs and chose the best even if they didn't match. I'm sure at the end of the day she threw some filler songs in because her label wanted her to properly release it in 2014 and she was determined to get it out by 2013.

I'm not necessarily saying filler is a bad thing because it's really not, there can be very good filler songs. But the sad truth is not all songs are on there because they were carefully hand crafted for an album.
In that sense, it may be hard to decide what's a filler on Teenage Dream and what are the main bits, just like Prism, it's a patchwork of things with no continuity.
Nowadays, I listen to the fan made isolated voice tracks of Katy they made from Prism and which I've got on Dropbox because I prefer to listen to just her singing it to the album.
I listen to new albums almost daily now I have the technical availability to do that without buying each one, and for that reason I listen to Katy's albums in fact very rarely. They're just three out of thousands - but when I do it's likely to be not Prism but one of the others. I always felt Prism is a kind of transitional thing, leaving the cupcakes but to go where-?
The album 'The Beatles' is a patchwork of almost every music and song style which has ever existed but there's not one single filler on it. No matter how dejected, it's still one big work of art in its own unique way. Katy's albums after OOTB have been patch works with no art of composition of context. I think that's very much their weakness.
I find that Rise is very promising, if that's a style for a new album - unless that style gets mixed with songs about drinking at parties and big balloons again, in that case it would just carry on as before with no innovation really.  I'd love an album with some more steady characteristic in its type of song and Rise is more the grownup thing I'd like for that characteristic.

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Re: RISE
« Reply #78 on: August 17, 2016, 01:24:28 AM »
Who's watching the 'making of Rise' and loving it, too? - 'I'm not afraid of heights...' That explains some things with Katy which make me sweat looking at them!  :lol:

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Re: RISE
« Reply #79 on: August 17, 2016, 11:19:23 PM »
Never grow up!

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Offline katykicksass

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Re: RISE
« Reply #80 on: August 26, 2016, 03:19:49 PM »
Rise remixes are on itunes
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